Cameron Herold | Growing 2 $100-Million Companies, Bipolar Disorder, and Raising Kids to Be Entrepreneurs


Education is important, but do we educate our children in the most beneficial way?

This week’s guest believes there are better methods. 

Cameron Herold is the Founder of the COO Alliance, a peer network designed to cater to the second in command of organizations. Cameron is also the Founder of the Second in Command Podcast. He is known the world over as the “CEO Whisperer,” and also known as the mastermind behind 1-800-GOT-JUNK’s growth from a $2 million company with 14 employees to over $100 million with over 3,000 employees.  

In this episode, John is joined by Cameron to talk about the state of our education system, the emergence of social media, and why podcasts are so valuable to a business. 

In this episode, we also talk about:

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  • The Traits of Entrepreneurs and Those With Bipolar Disorder
  • Kids Should Be Trained to be Entrepreneurs, Not Lawyers
  • The Emergence of Social Media and its Effects on Business
  • The Power of Vision that Athletes Use
  • Teaching Entrepreneurs to Use Vision
  • The COO Alliance City Forums
  • Everyone Struggles With at Least One Personal Thing at a Time
  • The Current State of Education is Broken
  • The Second In Command Podcast
  • Why Podcasts are so Valuable
  • Who Cameron Thanks for His Success

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Episode Transcript

John Corcoran  0:40  

Welcome everyone. My guest on this show is Cameron Harold, and I’m honored to have him here. He’s a longtime entrepreneur, the mastermind behind multiple nine figure companies, including he built his first $200 million companies by age 35. He engineered 1-800-GOT-JUNK, spectacular growth and $2 million 106 million dollars in revenue from 14 to 3100 employees and just six years. It’s insane.

Today he’s a speaker, author of multiple books, a podcaster, and the founder of the COO Alliance, where he mentors second in command executives.

But first, if you’re new to this show, I don’t charge a dime for this podcast. We’ve published hundreds of episodes, every single one of them I talked with top business leaders, CEOs, founders, experts, and I asked them to break down not just the businesses that they built, but the key relationships with clients, mentors, friends, peers, referral partners and influencers that are the backbone of any business and just share how you can do it too. So if you find value in this podcast, which I know you will, all we ask is that you subscribe so you get this content automatically and you can listen to it regularly. Also, before we get into this interview This podcast is brought to you by Rise25 media which is our done-for-you agency focusing on helping b2b businesses to get more clients referral partners and strategic partners through done for you podcast and done-for-you content marketing. I know my guests here Cameron is it podcaster as well, so he’s seen the light as well. And our company has over 20 years experience with podcasting, we believe starting a podcast is one of the best things you can do for your business and you personally. And if you do it right, it’s so many things at once. It’s business development, networking, client acquisition, referral, marketing, and more. You even get to have amazing conversations with people who admire like Cameron here today. So if you want to learn more about that, go to rise25.com and

As I mentioned, my guest is Cameron Harold. We met a number of years back at mastermind talks conference where I remember we were seated next to each other one day, which I think was an honor because Jason Gaynor, the founder mastermind talks, actually puts a lot of thought and effort into putting people next to one another. And we had a great conversation. I’ve been looking forward to interviewing you. It’s one of those things that you know, you you always have a have a dream list of people that you want to interview for your podcasts and it’s hard to get to all of them. I should probably just do one straight year of daily podcast so I can get through everyone. So I’ve really been looking forward to this. And you’re you’re not only a Renowned executive and entrepreneur but also this This is amazing. The publisher of Forbes magazine said Cameron Harold is the best speaker he’s ever heard which, that’s just amazing. Praise. I also mentioned briefly your books, double double meeting suck, vivid vision Miracle Morning for entrepreneurs and free PR. Go check out those books. But I want to start I know it’s a little bit old at this point, Cameron, but you did a TED talk. And you said that I think we should raise kids to be entrepreneurs rather than lawyers and as a lawyer and an entrepreneur, I totally agree. Because so much more job creation and economic growth comes from entrepreneurs, especially in today’s days, day and age. And but I know that this is something very personal for you too. Because yes, you grew up with with a DD and lack of ability to concentrate and you felt like a lot of times we we send our kids towards trying to fix what’s what’s not their strength, rather than focusing on their strengths and and i agree that that’s kind of crazy.

Cameron Herold  4:00  

Yeah, it’s funny my, well, it’s not funny. I think it’s really sad because as a child, I grew up in a system in a school system where I was told to sit still and pay attention and there’s only one right answer and be like everyone else and stop being so distracting and work on your weaknesses and get a tutor. And, and it was frustrating because every day I would try my best and I’d get dis focused, I get in trouble and I would get bored. And instead of the school system saying, Wow, you just want another public speaking competition, maybe we should get you a speaking coach. They kept identifying that I was weak in French or bad in history, and I should get tutors and in chemistry in French, and I still suck at French. And me. Yeah, yes. Like, I didn’t make any sense. Like, I wasn’t gonna use French. Why would I learn it? But if someone had said, Wow, you can study all the different entrepreneurs, the great entrepreneurs in history. What do you think I’d be like, that’s awesome. If I got to read about them and watch videos about them and be like, That’s amazing. But they pushed me to study things. And to do it in a way that wasn’t meant for me. So I was really, I kind of saw that early on. And then I also have the signs of bipolar disorder. I’ve got 11 to the 11 signs for bipolar where, you know, you’re told that attention deficit is a disorder and that bipolar is a disorder. Now, it can be if you’re on the very, very fringe, but the reality is about 3% of people are bipolar and about 3% of people are entrepreneurs. And most entrepreneurs are on the spectrum for bipolar. If I read you the 11 traits, and most entrepreneurs are also on the spectrum for attention deficit disorder. Maybe it’s exactly who we’re supposed to be. Someone this morning said, you know, that entrepreneurs are famous for seeing outside of the box, and I went, there’s no box, like, hasn’t anyone told you there is no box, right? Well, maybe entrepreneurs are supposed to be out of the box, and we’re supposed to see everything. We’re supposed to be scattered so that we get excited about ideas, and we see the market and the customer in the economy and our suppliers. And then we get bored with ideas. So we delegate them Maybe those are our strengths. And maybe the mania is why people follow us. And the stress or depression is simply us course correcting. So I’ve kind of been really passionate about that. I talked a little bit as you mentioned in my TED talk that came out 10 years ago, it’s still on the main TED. com website. They actually edited the title it was originally called raising kids to be entrepreneurs instead of lawyers and they cut out the instead of lawyers part.

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