Everyone wants it, but it can be very difficult to find or sustain.
This week’s guest has mastered it.
Charlie Gilkey is the Founder of Productive Flourishing, a consulting company based in Portland, Oregon, which helps creatives, entrepreneurs, and leaders to start finishing projects. Charlie is also a speaker and the author of Start Finishing: How to Go from Idea to Done. The goal for Charlie and his company is to help people and businesses focus on what matters so that they can finish what they started.
In this episode, John Corcoran is joined by Charlie Gilkey to talk about the unusual way he wrote his latest book, deciding which people in your life to focus on, and why prioritizing things can be so difficult.
In this episode, we also talk about:
Here’s a Glimpse of What You’ll Hear:
- The Unusual Device that Charlie Used to Write His Book
- Younger Generations Know How to Type at an Early Age
- The Powerful Distractions We Face Every Day that Keep Us From Accomplishing Things
- Prioritizing is Difficult When Every Project is a “Top Priority”
- Past Failures can be Baggage That Affects Current Productivity
- What to do with Naysayers
- Focus on the People Who Believe in You
- Who Charlie Thanks for His Success
- Productive Flourishing Website
- About Charlie Gilkey
- Start Finishing: How to Go from Idea to Done, by Charlie Gilkey
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John Corcoran 0:40
Alright, welcome everyone. My guest on this show is it’s truly a pleasure to welcome back Charlie Gilkey, someone who I really respect someone who I’ve learned from for a long time. We were just reminiscing. I actually have known him for least about seven years now, which is just It feels like an eternity and he’s an expert and helping people to start Finishing the stuff that really matters. He’s the founder of Productive Flourishing author of the book Start Finishing, which we’re gonna be talking about here today, The Small Business Life Cycle, which came out in 2012. And I did two episodes back to back, talking with him about that one, and also host of the productive flourishing podcast long before that, in an earlier life. He was a logistics coordinator, while simultaneously pursuing a PhD in philosophy, and also a veteran. Thank you, sir, for your service.
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As I mentioned, my guest is is Charlie Gilkey and Charlie I was reading up on your background and how you put this book together and I thought this was such an inappropriate way to start things off. You didn’t write this thing on a laptop, did you? You You missed your practicality. took a look at yourself in the mirror and you said nope, nope, ain’t gonna get the job done in a laptop. I’m going to use something else. It wasn’t Sanskrit. It wasn’t a scroll. It wasn’t pen and paper, but it was close. So tell us about that.
Charlie Gilkey 3:04
Yeah. So first off, thanks for having me on the show again, and really appreciate what you’re doing here. And so as I started writing the book, I found like many writers do is like a man I’m distracted is crazy, right? It’s all the things coming to me. And as far as context goes, you got to remember is that I’m not just a full-time author, right? I’m a coach. I do a podcast all the things that you mentioned, I serve on boards. I have the string of email. So I have a lot of different irons in the fire all the time. And it turned out that my laptop was an entry point for distract distraction and interruption. And rather than continuing to lose the battle of willpower, and lose the battle of distraction,
I actually was like, You know what, I just need something that interfaces with my fingers. It gets words from brain into a device that I could use my soul Here is drafting. And so, you know, back when I started productive flourishing, there is, you know, in really nice corners of the productivity web and then so that’s super nice, right? Nice quarters of the productivity web. There were folks that were talking about using an alpha smart Neo to, which is a late 90s. word processor is basically a keyboard with an LCD screen on it. You’re like typing into a calculator, essentially. And it can, you know, it can hold a full book on this thing. And I had used one before it had been my crutch.
Like when I was ever I was stuck and fighting against computers and technology. I would be like, you know what? Neil? was like, All right, I’m writing the book on the Neo and so that meant what that really meant, john is I had a routine I would wake up in the morning, I’d walk to the coffee shop. The only thing in my bag was my Neo and my phone only because I needed to listen to Spotify or music and background but I wasn’t distracted by my phone at the time, given the way that I had hacked the crap out of my phone. So I’d walk down, I’d write for four hours, and I’d walk and I’d walk home. And there were plenty of times, like writers and creators will know what I mean here. Like, I can sense that space between paragraphs, right? There’s that moment where you’re like, You finished a paragraph and like, thoughts would enter true. You’re like, what’s going on? Do I need to check that email? What’s happening there, blah, blah, blah, like all the noise and all the chatter, and that would be just enough to throw me off of the writing game.
But because of the way that we can prime ourselves to orient to our environment and the tools in our environment, that noise went away on the Neo too. And so even if I had to get to the end of the paragraph, and I’d be, you know, struggling with the words and you know, have all the head trash about that, like, I didn’t have anywhere to run to I didn’t have Facebook to jump to I didn’t have Twitter, I didn’t have email. I didn’t have slack. It was just the question was, am I going to get back at it? Or am I going to stop And most of the time is like, well, I’ve only been here 15 minutes and I’m not gonna walk down here 15 minutes and stop, so I’ll keep going. Yeah, and then I’ll keep going. And then at the end of is like, well, I guess I’m done and I’d walk home and then[continue to page 2]